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cannoneerno4
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Pashtun Irregulars
Feb 20 2008, 10:32 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 10:32 AM EST
Research on arbakai/arbaki/arbakee, Afghan National Auxiliary Police,
Pakistani Frontier Corps, Khasadar Force, tribal levies, warlordism, militias
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cannoneerno4
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1. RE: Pashtun Irregulars
Feb 20 2008, 10:35 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 10:35 AM EST
<a href="http://iwpr.net/?p=arr&amp;s=f&amp;o=322404&amp;apc_state=henh">Afghan Police to Hire Ex-Militia Men?</a> 20-Jul-06
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cannoneerno4
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2. RE: Pashtun Irregulars
Feb 20 2008, 10:37 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 10:37 AM EST
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cannoneerno4
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3. RE: Pashtun Irregulars
Feb 20 2008, 10:39 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 10:39 AM EST
Understanding Local Violence Security Arrangements in Kandahar, Kunduz and Paktia (Afghanistan)

http://www.mediothek.org.af/uploaded_files/files/arti%202.pdf
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4. RE: Pashtun Irregulars
Feb 20 2008, 11:09 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 11:09 AM EST
Excellent:
work.

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cannoneerno4
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5. RE: Pashtun Irregulars
Feb 20 2008, 2:54 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 2:54 PM EST
http://www.jamestown.org/terrorism/news/article.php?articleid=2373893
South Waziri Tribesmen Organize Counterinsurgency Lashkar

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cannoneerno4
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6. Khasadar
Feb 20 2008, 7:08 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 7:08 PM EST
http://www.zibb.com/article/2319984/Pakistan+government+scraps+project+to+train+tribal+troops

Pakistan government scraps project to train tribal troops
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cannoneerno4
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7. RE: Khasadar
Feb 20 2008, 7:12 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 7:12 PM EST
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2008/02/pakistan_revives_the.php
Pakistan revives the North Waziristan Accord

Security at the checkpoints has been turned over to the Khasadars, a poorly armed, “ragtag tribal police.”
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geraldanthro
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8. Pashtun cyber force
Feb 21 2008, 2:08 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 21 2008, 2:08 AM EST
Even just a squad of Pashtun speaking cyber troops could make a significant impact.

hmmmm
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Pugmak
9. RE: Pashtun cyber force
Feb 26 2008, 12:23 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 26 2008, 12:23 AM EST
http://www.afghanan.net/afghanistan/pashtunistanissue.htm
Don't know enough of the particulars to verify any of that, but it seems to be a quick brief on the the how and why of the creation of the "tribal area" in Pakistan during the partition from India. Goes into some of the history of conflict between Paki and Afghani centered around the Pashtun issue.
Study options:
Partition of India and Pakistan
Pashtunistan
the 1893 Durand agreement
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Pugmak
10. RE: Pashtun cyber force
Feb 26 2008, 12:47 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 26 2008, 12:47 AM EST
Found the info in the above link nearly ident to the info in the Country Studies page on Pashtunistan
http://www.country-studies.com/afghanistan/the-pashtunistan-issue.html

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Pugmak
11. RE: Pashtun cyber force
Feb 26 2008, 12:59 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 26 2008, 12:59 AM EST
The Customary Laws of Afghanistan
http://www.usip.org/ruleoflaw/projects/ilf_customary_law_afghanistan.pdf (64 pages) was produced by
http://www.theilf.org/ (International Legal Foundation, Ltd)

It says about the arkabai on pg 10.

III. Enforcement
The men responsible for the enforcement and implementation of the Jirga
decisions are known as Arbakai. In ancient Aryan tribes, the Arbakai led groups of
warriors in wartime and maintained law and order in peacetime. Today, they take
orders from a commander. They are given considerable immunity in their communities
and cannot be harmed or disobeyed. Those who flout these rules are subject to the
punishments set by the Arbakai organization.
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geraldanthro
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12. RE: Pashtun cyber force
Feb 26 2008, 1:11 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 26 2008, 1:11 AM EST
WWW.warintel.blogspot.com/2008/01/taliban-criminal-identy-of-pashtun.html
WWW.warintel.blogspot.com/2008/02/macro-view-of-pashtootaliban-situation.html
www.warintel.blogspot.com/2007/11/taliban-as-tribe.html

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Pugmak
13. RE: Pashtun cyber force
Feb 26 2008, 1:33 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 26 2008, 1:33 AM EST
I wonder how much impact the Sikh efforts to establish an independent Khalistan in the neighboring Punjab region during the 70s and 80s had on the Pushtuns deciding to try to recreate Pushtunistan?

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Pugmak
14. RE: Pashtun cyber force
Feb 26 2008, 1:50 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 26 2008, 1:50 AM EST
If my wanderings around a topic subject are bothersome, let me know...

Found something that seems to imply Taliban were enforcing Pashtu language compliance as part of their program..
http://sanjar.blogspot.com/2008/02/journalist-fine-is-linked-to.html#links
It appears, at least according to the hints in that one person's blog, that the government of Afghanistan is continuing in that process, but a bit softer in doing so.

It also seems to suggest that the Dari speaking peoples might be more naturally aligned with Iran.
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Pugmak
15. RE: Pashtun cyber force
Feb 26 2008, 2:13 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 26 2008, 2:13 AM EST
Not sure what's acceptable or proper form or of use or value but this popped into my head so I'll put it out there, just in case.

Research assignment:
Gather general information on Afghanistan to include, but not limited to:
History of relations between Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Issues impacting either Afghanistan or Pakistan since the formation of Pakistan.
Issues of contention and conflict between Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Relationship of languages spoken to religious faction or extra national identity/cultural sympathy.
Names of prominent British officials from the period of British rule in the area and the rules, laws, problems they cause or problems they solved.
Background familiarity with Soviet actions in Afghanistan
Names of prominent Soviet military/civil leaders in Afghanistan and names of known Afghan collaborators or communist party members.
Familiarity with the history of relationships between the peoples of south west asia to include northern India, Pakistan/Afghan area and bordering former Soviet states.

Also, find 3 Afghan blogs in english language that each offer differing views on the same general subjects. Not blogs linked friend to friend.

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Pugmak
16. RE: Pashtun cyber force
Feb 26 2008, 2:15 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 26 2008, 2:15 AM EST
word count exceeded. I need to learn to say more with less, I guess.

Anyhoo, I don't know the ettiquet involved with starting or suggestion or offering up a research idea, but if we do intend to wander into a chat fight with folk either from that AO or about that AO, it'd be best not to wander in unarmed.

I stuck it here in this thread hoping it'd be easier to delete if it's out of line or just not necessary or some such.
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Huginn_and_Muninn
17. RE: Pashtun cyber force
Feb 26 2008, 7:38 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 26 2008, 7:38 AM EST
pugmak, just jump on in, and start up a page where ever you see fit, if you think something doesn't make sense, or something that should go somewhere, then put it in or edit it, if other members think you have something that is worth editing, and they give good, tactical, or intelligence based reasons behind it, then all the better.

For the moment, it's about a mess of information coming together, editing can come later.

So just start up a page and jump on in, any target related info will end up supporting tactical ops later on, so the more info, and the more we edit, find better sources, analyse etc. the better our ops, when they begin will be.
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Pugmak
18. RE: Pashtun cyber force
Feb 26 2008, 7:56 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 26 2008, 7:56 AM EST
Ok thanks muchly.

I'm still a bit weak on the concept I think. Should I hold off links to potential materials and such until I've gotten it worked down a bit more refined? I've done forums and blog commenting, but never anything wiki-ish except occasional reading.

So I guess I'm asking.. the stuff we link in the forum, is that supposed to be wiki quality or is work in progress, study/hint/evaluation trails ok?
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Huginn_and_Muninn
19. RE: Pashtun cyber force
Feb 26 2008, 8:11 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 26 2008, 8:11 AM EST
nah mate, just start up a page, have a basic outline or whatever, and then come back and edit it whenever you need to, raw data dumps are fine, it'll be edited by others if you put todo's on the page, basically like a swarm effect others will come in and edit, add data etc.

as for what the forum is for, just discussion, if you want to post stuff here first, that is fine, probably best just to jump right in and post it though, others will edit it when see it, eventually this will end up in a cumulative effect, and far down the track, we'll have an informational advantage of our targets (imagine all of us starting, editing, collecting data, and attacking the enemy off our own initiative, that is the big picture, so take that initiative).
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